TORNADO - The Team with the Comedy Flying Cow
FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS

Don't think this page stops you sending us emails and asking us questions, but if we've sent you a link to this page in reply to your email, it's because you've asked a question lots of people ask. The main problem is that our time is limited, and we don't therefore have time to reply in detail to every question we get through email.
Questions

Do you have %&#@$+ for sale?

Have you got any free kart tyres?

Can you design for me/build me/give me designs for speed controllers?

Can you design me a spinning disc weapon?

Can we design a robot for you, or build you a robot?

How do I charge SLA batteries?

What gear ratio does Tornado use?

Can Tornado come to your event?

What motors does Tornado use?

What Interchangeable weapons does Tornado have?

Doesn't Tornado burn out its Bosch motors regularly?

Did Tornado cheat in the Series 6 final?

How do you use a computer power supply to charge SLA batteries?

Answers

Do you have %&#@$+ for sale?
We do have some items for sale, see our
For Sale page. If it's not up on the For Sale page then we don't have any of them for sale, so please don't waste both your and our time asking us!

Have you got any free kart tyres?
Read the
Kart Tyres page - as of 24/4/02, we can no longer offer free kart tyres. We do have a few tyres cleared out from Tornado's own stock - the only charge for these is the postage - see our For Sale page.

Can you design for me/build me/give me designs for speed controllers?
Unfortunately not. Again time is a problem, but so also is the investment in our design - it took a lot of work, and we don't just want to give it away! The parts are expensive also, so us building controllers for you is not going to happen. The electronics knowledge required to properly design speed controllers is substantial (remember Dave has a masters degree) and we haven't got the time to teach you how to do it - if you want to know how, go to university!

Can you design me a spinning disc weapon?
Although Bryan designed our spinning weapons, he cannot afford the time to design one for everyone, sorry! It takes a lot of time to design one properly, and we all work full time and barely have enough spare time to work on Tornado.

Can we design a robot for you, or build you a robot?
Sorry, we all work full time and we have barely enough time to work on Tornado, let alone build or design robots for other people.

How do I charge SLA batteries?
See our
Recommended Batteries page, under "How do I charge my batteries?"

What gear ratio does Tornado use?
17.5:1 - See our
Specs and Technical Info page.

Can Tornado come to your event?
Quite possibly -
have a look here. Bear in mind there are a huge number of events on already, and if yours clashes with an established event, we will probably attend the established one! We all work full time and getting to events during the week is very difficult. We can't guarantee to come to every event either, we do have lives outside of building and fighting robots!

What motors does Tornado use?
Tornado uses Bosch 24V 750W GPA motors, and we run them at 36V - See our
Specs and Technical Info page. Technobots is the cheapest place to buy them.

What Interchangeable weapons does Tornado have?
We have a total of four options we can legally use - 7kg spinning disc, Spiked Scoop, Fixed Spike and ACW (Anti Crusher Weapon). Two weapons we built were deemed illegal by Mentorn's technical crew - these were the ASW (Anti Spinner Weapon) and AAW (Anti Axe Weapon). We started work on an electrical lifter, but have not yet finished it. See our
Specs and Technical Info page for more information.

Doesn't Tornado burn out its Bosch motors regularly?
No! We have eight Bosch motors, six of which are in a working condition at the moment. One that doesn't work is the one we burnt out in Series 4 against Wheely Big Cheese, and is the one everyone knows about! The other has a cracked magnet (Andrew dropped it at Debenham) and the armature has moved on the shaft (we had a lot of trouble removing the pinion!), but we do have a spare magnet and expect to fix this motor at some point. Four out of our six working motors have been rewound, and this is because the insulation between the armature windings and motor case has broken down, making the speed controller output appear on Tornado's chassis, causing massive radio interference. If you see smoke from Tornado, it's almost always caused by the tyres wheelspinning - Tornado has that much power!

Did Tornado cheat in the Series 6 final?
Absolutely not. We wouldn't knowingly enter a battle if we knew we were breaking the rules, and if we won a fight by breaking the rules in the fight, we wouldn't willingly accept victory. Our Anti Crusher Weapon had been cleared by Mentorn's technical crew, as had the other weapons we used in Series 6, as they all had to be declared at the start of the filming. The Anti Crusher Weapon totally complies with the Robot Wars rules - we would not have been allowed to use it if it did not!
The rules allow "interchangable weapons and body panels" (8.1.1), and a 100kg maximum weight limit (9.1.1). They state that "If interchangeable panels and/or weapons are used, the weight is measured with the heaviest set-up in place." (9.1.4), and "Overall length must not exceed 2 metres. Overall width must not exceed 1.4 metres." (9.2.1). We have always submitted Tornado with its heaviest setup in place, and made sure that all the weapons configurations come in below 100kg. The Anti Crusher weapon is 1.35m wide, and about 1.6m long. It just happens that whoever designed the pit made it about 1m x 1m... (Rules are quoted from the 2002 Robot Wars contract, section numbers may differ in other copies of the rules, but the rules themselves are the same!) We should know the rules well, we have been doing this for a little while now! All we have done is to take advantage of a particular area of the rules, in a similar way to Gemini did with the clusterbot rule, or Anarchy with it's massive weight advantage as a walker.
Also, let me quote from a couple of posts on the
Robot Wars Forum by (then) Razer team member Vinny Blood, from the thread "WHAT A FINAL!!!!! (BEWARE-SUPER SPOILERS!!!)"):
It was a great final, and as Tornado could drive off the pit after the fight had stopped they deserved the win. We have no problem with the cage/disc device either, good to see them use a proper, aggressive weapon rather than a passive wedge which was supposedly outlawed back in Series 3. Well done to Andrew, Brian and Dave (snip...editor) We were happy with the result (snip...editor) Goes to show you can't win them all - just most of them! (Saturday, October 5, 2002 - 12:22 am)
I've had a lot of fan mail on the subject of Tornado's anti-Razer device - most of which brands them as cheats. I'd just like to point out that their interchangeable weaponry was all declared at the weigh in. It was OK'd by the technical crew and so they can't be 'cheats'. (snip...editor) (Friday, October 11, 2002 - 09:52 am)
We do however agree that Interchangeable Weapons are a contentious area. What exactly makes for an interchangeable weapon or body panel is not perfectly clear, although we do now know that purely defensive additions are not allowed - our Anti Spinner and Anti Axe Weapons were disallowed at the filming by Mentorn's technical crew, for (in their view) being purely defensive.
If you still disagree, build yourself a robot, and take us on in the arena!

How do you use a computer power supply to charge SLA batteries?
Connecting computer power supplies together in the required fashion requires quite a bit of modification to the supplies themselves. If this is done incorrectly it can make the supplies dangerous from a shock hazard point of view. You will also need to add further electronics to prevent the power supplies cutting out, batteries being overcharged etc. If you need to ask how its done then its probably not safe for you to have a go!


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